Monday, October 31, 2005

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V eo que con mi blog anterior acerca de la creación se ha desatado un debate de gran altura de pensamiento Es lo mejor que se puede esperar de un blog. Desgraciadamente no me es posible contestarlos en forma individual, pero haré comentarios generales al respecto que sigan alimentando el debate. Espero aún más también de ustedes. Necesitamos de la conversación. Sus repuestas lo demuestran. Sería bueno abundar sobre el hecho creativo del espectador. El arte contemporáneo es una acción de co creación de espectador y creador. La separación de ambos roles se va haciendo anticuada .

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Blogger con las antenitas prendidas said...

soy la primera!!!! Qué genial.
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En fin, eso te puedo decir de mi experiencia, como una ignorante espectadora. Espero seguir leyéndote.
Ahh, se me olvidaba, ahora que hablas de lo que es el espectador, quiero comentarte que te vi en una obra de teatro hace un par de años acá en viña, en que hiciste un monólogo, ya ni me acuerdo del nombre de la obra, pero lo que sí me asombró mucho es que yo había leído esa obra en el colegio y era bastante aburrida, creo que hasta lo comentaste, pero lo asombroso es que con la expresión artística, lograste envolvernos, y hacerla entretenida, me acuerdo que me moví entre distintas emociones y eso es lo rico del arte, que logra mover emociones que a veces están escondidas.
En fin, felicitaciones de nuevo por tu blog.
Saludos

5:25 PM  
Blogger tres tristes trigos said...

soy una estudiante de antropología con ansias de teatro
las divisiones entre epecatdor y actor son una discusion frecuente en mi carrera
¿como ser espectador si o mismo tengo mi propio mundo que me influye al ver a los uspuestos actores?
¿ como ser actor si al mismo tiempo observo lo que pasa para canalizar mis emociones?
bueno ea no es la pugna de la antropologiaparece, pero por lo menos la mía, pero como las diviones y dulaidades están pasadas de moda buscaré la forma de complementarla

10:02 PM  
Blogger Edge said...

Hector...

Felicitaciones por estar presente en la futura obra de Raul Ruiz.

Qué impresión tienes que un director de la magnitud de Raul te escoja para formar parte de su proyecto?

Quizás te sea interesante visitar mi blog destinado a Criticas de Cine.

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6:53 AM  
Blogger hagasbar said...

me acabo de enterar (por casualidad) de que tienes un blog... ojalá sigas escribiendo...

Chauu y salu2...

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a veces, las estrellas deben bajar del cielo, y sentarse a orillas de la calle, en un pueblecito de polvo y árboles desnudos, para observar los que vienen y van, así, los que han estado viendo al cielo, sabrán, que los milagros existen....y a estrella sabrá, que no es el tiempo el que la limita, es la voluntad....
un abrazo eterno, terrestre y de admiración....
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3:54 PM  
Blogger Icy said...

Lo cito: "co-creación de espectador y creador"...

Es que no podría haber otro modo de crear!!! El acto mismo de la creación necesita al menos dos fuerzas en completa complicidad.

Y la creación se hace más fuerte, poderosa y denotante en la medida que el creador conozca al público que lo escucha... que se empape de sus realidades y de su existencia (será eso posible?)... Que suene a cierto eso que va a contar, como los antiguos juglares.

Edificar algo donde no había nada: Elevar almas, levantar espíritus, consolidar lágrimas, ponerle corazón a los cuerpos vacíos, enseñarle al público a sentir!!!

Qué otra cosa puede ser más cercana al dios creador??

Los artistas son seres sublimes y sublimados que hacen de cada día un milagro...

Gracias por interesarse en debatir con nosotros...

Siga posteando por favor!!!

Un abrazo lleno de respeto y admiración.

8:28 AM  
Blogger Pato said...

Como todo en el mundo, creo que el arte tambièn es una co-construcción de nuevas realidades, donde los participantes son todo el mundo posible de interacciones entre personas y de interacciones con el medio ambiente.
Es como una gran pelota inseparable, que bota segùn su propia dinàmica y voluntad.

Hector, me gustaría que postearas más seguido.

5:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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La intención de este post, luego de no poder contactarme con usted, es invitarlo al lanzamiento de la revista el día martes 15 de noviembre.

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10:52 AM  
Blogger M&M said...

O sea, nos remitimos nuevamente a la intención esclarecedora de Lautrémont:

La poesía será escrita por todos.

Quizás por eso los grandes nombres no han vuelto a surgir. Será que acaso no puede haber otro Shakespeare? Tal vez... Ciertamente no puede haber Rimbaud después de Rimbaud. Hay descubrimientos irreparables. No obstante, el arte sigue involucrando al ser humano en su dimensión más profunda.

El declarar una co-creación también puede tomarse como un llamado para no hacer arte ombliguista y solipsista. Toda vez que se deje de lado aquello que existe fuera de la mente creativa nos encontraremos en un espacio cerrado. Sinceramente, es simplista pensar en crear y no tener en cuenta a un público, sea éste partícipe o no.

Muy interesante el Blog, se le agradece el espacio para la discusión.

Matías

5:46 AM  
Blogger jbw said...

Que bueno tener interacciones con un artista como tu, metido en los espacios sin ventanas-fisicas por supuesto- como veo el teatro. Mi experiencia es con la Arquitectura, y alli la relacion es obvia, el espectador-habitante siente y vive el espacio que uno se imagino, aunque no siento propiedad sobre lo que imagino, entonces los lugares se van poblando con la imaginacion de cada uno, olores, recuerdos, visiones. Para mi eso es Arquitectura, regalar un espacio para soñar y mi mayor ambicion, que puedan caber todos los sueños del que lo habita.Que sientes que se lleva un espectador despues de una Obra de Teatro en que actuaste?

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hola Tito, soy Bernardo Hermosilla, de Temuco, fui alumno de teatro Camino el 2001. Me volvi al sur dejando la escuela, pero no el teatro. Seguí tu consejo el de Alejandro y Bélgica, si bien no pude seguir estudiando, seguí haciendo teatro (y danza).
El 2002 volví a interpretar a Teillier en "Viaje a la memoria", el 2004, luego de un año de ensayos interrumpidos por distintos motivos, estrenamos "La Exiliada de Dios" un texto original de Juan Curilem. En esa obra se rescataba algo que se comentó de "La Vida es Sueño" en un festival de España, "...un texto, y el actor enfrentando al público". Acá tambien se comentaba sobre el rescate del texto y de las actuaciones por sobre la "parafernalia" teatral de algunos montajes contemporaneos (tema de debate). En Octubre de este año, estrenamos "De tacones y fusiles" basada en una Crónica de Pedro Lemebel. Fueron cinco semanas de funciones con muy buena asistencia de público, lo que en regiones es muy difícil.
Quizás para los que lean esto sea un poco aburridor que yo cuente lo que he estado haciendo, pero sé que tanto Tito, como Alejandro y Bélgica se alegrarán de que alguien que pasó por sus aulas y tablas, siga siendo teatrista.
Con respecto a lo de la construcción por parte del público, debo decir que en los últimos dos personajes que se me ha permitido crear, el público ha sido muy importante, no sólo por sus comentarios, sino por las reacciones que va teniendo en cada presentación. Sabemos que cada función es distinta a la anterior, y que el personaje no se desarrolla completamente sino pasadas varias funciones, y ese contacto y devolución que hace el público mientras actúas es de vital importancia para el desarrollo de cada personaje, así como para el montaje en general.
Tito, me encantaría que te comunicaras conmigo, o alguien de los profesores o compañeros de curso (Cristan Cheuque, Sebastian Marincovic, Olivia, Julio,Paty, Marcela, Las Carolinas, etc.) Sería genial volver a saber de alguno de ellos. Mis correos son rollytea@hotmail.com, o rolyhermosilla@gmail.com.
Un abrazo maestro, y a todo Teatro Camino un cordial saludo y mucha mierda en los futuros montajes.
Bernardo Hermosilla, Temuco.

11:40 AM  
Anonymous César Pradenas said...

Hola Tito: soy César Pradenas tu ex alumno te envio este mensaje solo para saludarte y contarte que estoy muy ien aciendo mucho teatro en villarrica como ya te habia contado. un fuerte abrazo...

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Blogger diabluzero said...

humildemente, para la mi la creación es ese ente que se apodera del artista para poder pasar a nuestra realidad y trascender, ejemplo obvio la fotografía, en que ya existe ese momento y vista especial y el artista se encarga de hacerla pasar por sus lentes e imprimirla en su cámara... eso se podria aplicar a todo, música, pintura... y teatro?
y claro hay co-creacion, que tambien implica que actores/artistas y espectadores son instrumentos de la creación y el resultado va a depender de la unión del punto de vista de ellos... cada función distinta a la anterior, cada sensación ante un cuadro una sensación distinta, etc.
una volada de un ingeniero astronómico y músico en potencia.
abrazos héctor y siga siendo el mejor... y posteando mas seguido ;)

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¿Sabe? Recurro a Ud. para pedirle un consejo, pero no un consejo cualquiera, sino un consejo como si yo fuera su hermana, su mejor amiga o su hija. Se trata de lo siguiente:
Provengo de familia humilde, tengo mis estudios superiores congelados por motivos económicos, sin embargo he podido tomar cursos y talleres que tienen que ver con Guión Cinematográfico, esa es mi pasión. El resto lo he aprendido leyendo decenas de libros y aplicándolo en mis trabajos.
Desde el año 98 que ejerzo en otras cosas, menos en lo que me mata de pasión: escribir. He sido asistente de investigador privado, cajera de panadería, camarógrafo de eventos, conductora de automóviles privados, y ahora último ejecutiva de call center para Telefónica CTC Chile.
He golpeado puertas, he llamado por teléfono, he mandado correos electrónicos a muchas partes, productoras, canales, etc, con la idea de que alguien se fije en lo que escribo y me pueda recomendar para trabajar ejerciendo en alguna parte.
Nunca ha pasado por mi cabeza ser actriz, ni gerente de ningún medio, sólo aspiro a escribir guiones para personas que lo necesiten. Tengo mi computador abarrotado de trabajos que nunca nadie leyó y no porque yo no los mostrara.
Mi teoría es que sin un título universitario ni un pituto no tengo ninguna posibilidad de demostrar que soy perfectamente capaz de producir material de mejor calidad de lo que veo en la televisión.
Me considero una persona educada, con mucho talento, predisposición, buena dicción, aterrizada, en fin, pero no tengo un currículum poderoso para que al menos me dejen como a prueba para ver que sí sirvo para el medio.

Mi pregunta, dado a todo lo que le he contado es: según su perspectiva, dónde puedo ir, con quién hablar, a quién dirigirme para hacerme oír? a la televisión? Los medios escritos? Quiero demostrar que puedo, que soy capaz y que la universidad solo me enseñaría cosas que yo ya sé aplicar a lo que me gusta que es ESCRIBIR.
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Don Hector, sé que no me conoce y quizás no me conozca jamás, pero sabe, yo soy sola en esta ciudad, no conozco a nadie y necesito que alguien me ayude y me oriente.
No le pido nada mas, dame un consejo, por favor.
Estoy rogándole.


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Siendo una admiradora suya Sr. Noguera, ma parecería mágico que Ud. pudiera ayudarme. Necesito contactarme con Ruiz. Yo trabajé en La Paloma Blanca, yo era Mirtha.Dejamos una pelicula comprometida, "Y Corría el billete..." era el nombre.Por favor le dajaré mis datos, amo actuar y quiero aprender y mejorar.
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